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		<title>&#8216;The Filioque: A very basic introduction&#8217;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr Peter Gilbert, of De unione ecclesiarum (one of a few blogs by an Orthodox Christian I can bear to read) has just posted the text of a lecture he recently gave to the Youngstown, Ohio chapter of the Society of St John Chrysostom. Please leave any comments you have at Dr Gilbert&#8217;s blog.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Dr Peter Gilbert, of <em><a href="http://bekkos.wordpress.com" target="_blank">De unione ecclesiarum</a></em> (one of a few blogs by an Orthodox Christian I can bear to read) has just posted <a href="http://bekkos.wordpress.com/filioque-introduction/" target="_blank">the text of a lecture</a> he recently gave to the Youngstown, Ohio chapter of the <a href="http://www.ssjc.org/" target="_blank">Society of St John Chrysostom</a>. Please leave any comments you have at Dr Gilbert&#8217;s blog.</p>
<p>I will only reproduce here a quote of St Gregory the Theologian, which seems to sum up so well the history of theological wrangling between Greek and Latin Christianity:</p>
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<p><em>Others, mutually divided, drive East and West<br />
into confusion, and God has abandoned them to their flesh,<br />
for which they make war, giving their name and their allegiance to others:<br />
my god’s Paul, yours is Peter, his is Apollos.<br />
But Christ is pierced with nails to no purpose.<br />
For it’s not from Christ that we’re called, but from men,<br />
we who possess his honor by hands and by blood.<br />
So much have our eyes been clouded over by a love<br />
of vain glory, or gain, or by bitter envy,<br />
pining away, rejoicing in evil: these have a well-earned misery.<br />
And the pretext is the Trinity, but the reality is faithless hate.<br />
Each is two-faced, a wolf concealed against the sheep,<br />
and a brass pot hiding a nasty food for the children.</em></p>
<p>[Poem 2.1.13, <em>To the Bishops</em>, vv. 151-163; PG 37, 1239-1240]</p>
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		<title>On Peter the Aleut</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Via Dr William Tighe and John (of Ad Orientem), an essay by Raymond A. Bucko SJ of Creighton University, on St Peter the Aleut – a saint canonized by the OCA in 1980, who (along with Father Alexis Toth, canonized also by the OCA in 1994) for many American Orthodox, has become a sort of &#8220;icon&#8221; [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=eirenikon.wordpress.com&blog=2547214&post=355&subd=eirenikon&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Via Dr William Tighe and John (of <em>Ad Orientem</em>), an essay by Raymond A. Bucko SJ of Creighton University, on <a href="http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2007/2007-3.html" target="_blank">St Peter the Aleut</a> – a saint canonized by the OCA in 1980, who (along with Father Alexis Toth, canonized also by the OCA in 1994) for many American Orthodox, has become a sort of &#8220;icon&#8221; of anti-Catholic sentiment. A summary of Peter&#8217;s <em>vita</em> and his hymnography may be found <a href="http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsViewer.asp?SID=4&amp;ID=1&amp;FSID=102713" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Father Bucko&#8217;s conclusion:</p>
<blockquote><p>The icons of Peter the Aleut both reveal and conceal a series of often violent interrelationships generated on the colonial frontiers of Russia’s eastern colonial expansion. Ironically, the focus of the Icon, Peter himself, is the least credible instance of violence in the amazing nexus of relations, often violent, generated by the encounters among European and Native groups. This story of violence creates its own terror &#8211; that the account of even a single act of violence has the potential to epitomize, solidify, and perpetuate complex divisions and oppositions. Violence and terror &#8211; or rumors thereof &#8211; transform social realities. The question, a topic for another paper, is whether icons of violence can also heal, reconcile, and unite those wounded and separated.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>It&#8217;s been awhile &#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230; since I last updated my blogroll. Any interesting blogs I should be linking to?
[Update: It seems that my blogroll's disappeared somehow. Hmm.]
[Update: Ah, it's back!]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8230; since I last updated my blogroll. Any interesting blogs I should be linking to?</p>
<p>[Update: It seems that my blogroll's disappeared somehow. Hmm.]</p>
<p>[Update: Ah, it's back!]</p>
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		<title>&#8216;Not an Anthologist: John Bekkos as a Reader of the Fathers&#8217;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[From my favorite Orthodox blog, Prof. Peter Gilbert&#8217;s De Unione Ecclesiarum –
I finally have some good news to report. Today I received an e-mail from the Managing Editor of the journal Communio, informing me that the Summer 2009 issue is now, at last, in print, and that they have decided to feature my article on [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=eirenikon.wordpress.com&blog=2547214&post=331&subd=eirenikon&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>From my favorite Orthodox blog, Prof. Peter Gilbert&#8217;s <a href="http://bekkos.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/the-communio-article/" target="_blank"><em>De Unione Ecclesiarum</em></a> –</p>
<blockquote><p>I finally have some good news to report. Today I received an e-mail from the Managing Editor of the journal <em>Communio</em>, informing me that the Summer 2009 issue is now, at last, in print, and that they have decided to feature my article on “John Bekkos as a Reader of the Fathers” on their website. A link to the website, showing the contents of their current issue, is <a href="http://www.communio-icr.com/latest.htm">http://www.communio-icr.com/latest.htm</a>; a permanent link to the article, in PDF format, is <a href="http://www.communio-icr.com/articles/PDF/gilbert36-2.pdf">http://www.communio-icr.com/articles/PDF/gilbert36-2.pdf</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>A few choice bits from the article, emphasis mine (but please read the whole thing before commenting) –</p>
<blockquote><p>John Bekkos, who served as Patriarch of Constantinople during the years of the Union of Lyons (1275–1282) and who <strong>not merely accepted that union as a practical political necessity but defended it on the grounds of its theological truth</strong>, is not a popular man in much of the Christian East; many people view him as a traitor to Orthodoxy. He earns this reputation by virtue of having defended the view that the Latin doctrine of the procession of the Holy Spirit, the teaching that the Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son as from a single principle, is <strong>reconcilable and compatible with Greek patristic tradition</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8230; How far John Bekkos did or did not convert to Catholicism is a legitimate question; but it is not the question I chiefly wish to ask in this paper. I mention it here merely to give one specimen of new thinking about John Bekkos, thinking that presents some hope that long-entrenched views about him—the automatic assumption of his estrangement from the mind and heart of Orthodoxy—might be due for reassessment. <strong>Bekkos is increasingly being recognized as an early practitioner of what is now called “ecumenism.”</strong> The word “ecumenism” did not exist in Bekkos’s day, and it may be doubted whether he would have looked favorably on all modern varieties of it—whatever people may say about him, <strong>John Bekkos was not a doctrinal relativist</strong>—but that Bekkos was, in some sense, a thirteenth-century Orthodox ecumenist can hardly be denied. What is vital to note is that <strong>Bekkos consciously modeled his “ecumenism” upon the practice of the fathers of the Church.</strong> He saw the effort to move beyond verbal differences to a recognition of fundamental doctrinal agreement, where such agreement in truth existed, as an essential part of the fathers’ theological work. <strong>Christian faith is, in the final analysis, a faith not in words, but in things—and intellectual effort is sometimes needed to get beyond mere words to the realities that words signify.</strong> The fathers were willing to engage in that intellectual effort in order to preserve the unity of the Church; Bekkos saw himself as following in their footsteps.</p>
<p>&#8230; I would contend that his reading of the fathers of the Church provides real insight into what the fathers, or some of them at least, were saying. To dismiss John Bekkos as an “anthologist,” a man who “juggles texts” or collects them mechanically without any genuine insight into their meaning, is to perpetrate a gross misrepresentation. <strong>Bekkos was a theologian; and his continuing ecumenical significance has to be based on the very real possibility that some of his readings of the patristic evidence are true.</strong></p>
<p>The central part of the present article attempts to substantiate the claim that Bekkos’s patristic interpretation is an insightful one, that is, that he sees important aspects of the fathers’ teaching that others have missed. In particular, I shall argue (a) that <strong>Bekkos rediscovers something that may be called “Old Nicene” theology</strong>, (b) that, in line with this theology, Bekkos identifies a certain “logic” to the way the fathers speak about divine substance, (c) that crucial to Bekkos’s understanding of the trinitarian doctrine of the fathers is a recognition of what I would call “referential causality,” and (d) that, contrary to the claims of some, the reliability of most of Bekkos’s patristic citations is not in doubt, and that, for those texts whose genuineness is in doubt, there is reason to think that at least some of them are authentic.</p>
<p>&#8230; Whether or not one calls John Bekkos’s change of mind regarding the orthodoxy of the Latin Church a “conversion,” it seems undeniable that John Bekkos did, in fact, change his mind about the orthodoxy of the Latin Church as a result of the things he read while in prison in 1273 and immediately after his release from jail—basically, as a result of an intense study of the Greek Church fathers and of the interpretations of the fathers given by men like Niketas of Maroneia and Nikephoros Blemmydes. <strong>After publicly stating that the Latins were heretics, he came to see them as orthodox Christians, differing from Christians of the Greek Church, not in the essentials of their belief, but in the manner in which the one, common faith was expressed.</strong></p>
<p>&#8230; John Bekkos was not a juggler of texts or an anthologist, but a man who was concerned to state the logical coherence of traditional Christian belief in the Trinity, and to state it in such a way as to show that the insights of the Latin and Greek Christian traditions are ultimately harmonious. <strong>He saw, and I think saw correctly, that the <em>Filioque</em> debate had deep historical roots; this debate arose out of earlier misunderstandings concerning person and substance in God.</strong> Bekkos sees Photius and Gregory of Cyprus as teaching, not Cappadocian theology pure and simple, but a kind of neo-Cappadocianism that, by radicalizing the person/substance distinction through logical premises which the Cappadocians themselves do not state, draws from this distinction consequences which the Cappadocians themselves do not draw. They could not have drawn these consequences, because to do so would have disallowed much of their own stated thought; they would not have done so, because they recognized that those who spoke differently than they did nevertheless shared with them one faith.<br />
<strong>The Cappadocians practiced a kind of ecumenism; John Bekkos, in his role as bishop and teacher, thinks that he is authorized and obliged to do the same in the circumstances of his own time.</strong> The Cappadocians, in their day, articulated the mystery of the Trinity in a way that differed, in some significant respects, from the way St. Athanasius or St. Epiphanius or Pope St. Damasus articulated it; yet the Cappadocians strove to maintain communion with St. Athanasius and St. Epiphanius and Pope St. Damasus. Similarly, St. Maximus, in his day, recognized that the Latin-speaking Church articulated the mystery of the Holy Spirit’s procession in a way that differed from the way most Greek-speaking Christians did; yet he strove to maintain the bonds of communion, and said that he had never known the fathers to disagree with each other in thought, even though, very often, they disagree with one another verbally. John Bekkos thinks that reasons of Christian truth and love oblige him to imitate these holy men.</p>
<p>&#8230; <strong>Trinitarian language becomes meaningless if it loses its concrete moorings in the revelation of God in Christ.</strong> John Bekkos understood that, as there is no approaching the Father except through the Son, so there is no knowing the Holy Spirit’s eternal relation to the Father except, implicitly or explicitly, through the Son. The Spirit does not lead to the Father except <em>through</em> the Son, nor does the Spirit come forth <em>from</em> the Father to us except through the Son. <strong>When theologians deny a mediation of divine being, when they confidently assert an ontology that makes the Son’s mediation of the Spirit’s <em>ousia</em> impossible, one must ask how they have acquired this mystical knowledge of the Father that shunts the Son off to the side.</strong></p>
<p>John Bekkos did not shunt off the Son. He worshiped God the Logos, and logic played a role in how he worshiped him. He had no use for a “spirituality” that was not true rationality, just as he had no use for any new Spirit who is not through the Son. He was a diligent, painstaking researcher who cared about fact, because he cared about truth; but he did not worship the status quo. <strong>Pachymeres and others testify to Bekkos’s faith that, even if his own generation failed to appreciate what he had tried to do, future generations would understand. Time may yet prove him right.<br />
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This approach [of the "Confession of Faith Against Ecumenism"] is at variance with the policy of the Ecumenical Patriarchate and, increasingly, the body of local Orthodox Churches which are involved in the painstaking dialogue and progress towards restoring communion between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church undertaken by the International Theological Catholic-Orthodox Dialogue, and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=eirenikon.wordpress.com&blog=2547214&post=241&subd=eirenikon&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><blockquote><p>This approach [of the <a href="http://www.impantokratoros.gr/FA9AF77F.en.aspx" target="_blank">"Confession of Faith Against Ecumenism"</a>] is at variance with the policy of the Ecumenical Patriarchate and, increasingly, the body of local Orthodox Churches which are involved in the painstaking dialogue and progress towards restoring communion between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church undertaken by the International Theological Catholic-Orthodox Dialogue, and with the active participation of the Orthodox Church in the work of the World Council of Churches and the Faith and Order Commission. For these a &#8216;theology of return&#8217; has been set aside, as in Roman Catholic circles, it being recognised that visible Christian unity and re-integration is unlikely to be achieved by insisting that the various sides abandon their tradition and positions and convert to others. Instead, it is envisaged that through dialogue and friendship, no tradition should surrender its integrity but, instead, grow in theological, spiritual and pastoral awareness of the others towards finding a common mind in Christ, reflected faithfully in each Christian tradition, and towards realising greater unity and ultimately communion. Furthermore, it cannot be a threat to tradition and integrity to receive from others what accords, or comes to accord, with them through this growth.</p></blockquote>
<p>From the blog of the <a href="http://orientale-lumen.blogspot.com/2009/07/greek-clergy-denounce-heresy-of.html" target="_blank">Pontifical Society of St John Chrysostom</a> (UK and Europe)</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Orrologion has posted the original text of the &#8220;Twelve Differences between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches&#8221; by Teófilo de Jesús along with excellent responses to each of the twelve points from Fr Alvin Kimel, of Pontifications* fame, who in his extended period of discernment after leaving the Episcopal Church studied the claims of both Roman [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=eirenikon.wordpress.com&blog=2547214&post=237&subd=eirenikon&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://orrologion.blogspot.com/2009/08/12-orthodox-catholic-differences.html" target="_blank"><em>Orrologion</em> has posted</a> the original text of the &#8220;Twelve Differences between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches&#8221; by Teófilo de Jesús along with excellent responses to each of the twelve points from Fr Alvin Kimel, of <em>Pontifications<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span></em> fame, who in his extended period of discernment after leaving the Episcopal Church studied the claims of both Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy in great depth.</p>
<p>Some excerpts:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>On Primacy. </strong></em>Is it true that the Orthodox Church rejects totally any understanding of ecclesial headship? What about the bishop of a diocese? Does he not wield and embody a divine authority given to him by Christ Jesus? Is he not the head of his community, which precisely is the Church? And when Catholics speak of the Pope as the earthly head of the Church, are they in any way denying that Christ alone is properly head of the Church? When Catholics speak of the primacy of the Pope, are they exalting the Pope above the Episcopate, as if their power and authority derived from him? And are Orthodox theologians incapable of entertaining an authentic primacy within the episcopal college for the bishop of Rome? &#8230;</p>
<p><em><strong>On Conciliarity. </strong></em>The Catholic Church understands the Church precisely as a communion of particular Churches and local dioceses; moreover, the Church as the universal Church is not to be understood as simply the sum or collection of all particular Churches: each diocese is itself a truly catholic body &#8230; Catholic ecclesiology is so much more complex and diverse than is sometimes appreciated &#8230;</p>
<p><em><strong>On Original Sin. </strong></em>I&#8217;m sure there are differences between Catholic construals of anthropology and Orthodox construals of anthropology (please note the plural); but I do not believe that this is because the Catholic Church authoritatively teaches a forensic imputation of original sin and the Orthodox Church does not. Why do I say this? Because it is not at all clear to me that the Catholic Church authoritatively teaches the *forensic* imputation of Adam&#8217;s guilt to humanity. I know that some (many?) Catholic theologians have sometimes taught something like this over the centuries, but the Catholic Church has strained over recent decades to clarify the meaning of Original Sin not as the forensic transfer of Adam&#8217;s guilt but as the inheritance of the Adamic condition of real alienation from God&#8211;i.e., the absence of sanctifying grace &#8230; Important differences on the nature of original exist between St Augustine and magisterial Catholic teaching &#8230;</p>
<p><em><strong>On Liturgical Reform. </strong></em>I agree here that there are important differences between Catholic and Orthodox liturgical praxis at the present time. Sadly, many sectors of the Catholic Church appear to have uncritically embraced the thesis that the Church must adapt her liturgy to the spirit of the modern age. This has been disastrous for Catholic life and spirituality. One does see signs, however, that the insanity is passing.</p>
<p><em><strong>On Grace and Deification. </strong></em>While perhaps it might have been true at some point in the past that Catholic theologians tended to reduce grace to a created power, this cannot be asserted today. Catholic theologians are quite clear that everything begins with and centers around Uncreated Grace. Catholic theologians do have a problem with some of the Palamite construals of grace and the popular Orthodox rejection of any notion of created grace&#8211;they do not see how the Palamite position does not lead to the annihilation of human nature&#8211;but this does not mean that Catholic theologians and poets cannot envision an eschatological life as full and vivid as the Orthodox. Surely Dante&#8217;s <em>Paradiso</em> may be invoked at this point. But I do acknowledge a difference of homiletical and ascetical emphasis between Catholics and Orthodox on theosis, sanctifying suffering, and the life of the resurrection.</p></blockquote>
<p><em><span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span></em> I was inspired to begin blogging after reading <em>Pontifications</em>, though I am not nearly as erudite and well-spoken as Fr Kimel and some of his interlocutors, both Catholic and Orthodox.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Making the rounds in the Orthodox-Catholic blogosphere: Twelve Differences between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches, by Teófilo de Jesús, a Roman Catholic, of the blog Vivificat. Please read also the ensuing combox discussion, and leave any comments there. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Making the rounds in the Orthodox-Catholic blogosphere: <a href="http://vivificat1.blogspot.com/2009/08/twelve-differences-between-orthodox-and.html">Twelve Differences between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches</a>, by Teófilo de Jesús, a Roman Catholic, of the blog <em><a href="http://vivificat1.blogspot.com">Vivificat</a></em>. Please read also the ensuing combox discussion, and leave any comments there. </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On his Ancient Faith Radio podcast, Professor Peter Bouteneff of St Vladimir&#8217;s Seminary compares and contrasts the recent &#8220;Confession of Faith Against Ecumenism&#8221; emanating from one quarter of the Orthodox Church of Greece, with the address of Archbishop Anastasios of Albania’s to the assembly of the Conference of European Churches.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://ancientfaith.com/podcasts/podup/sweeter/heresy_vs._hope" target="_blank">On his Ancient Faith Radio podcast</a>, Professor Peter Bouteneff of St Vladimir&#8217;s Seminary compares and contrasts the recent &#8220;Confession of Faith Against Ecumenism&#8221; emanating from one quarter of the Orthodox Church of Greece, with the address of Archbishop Anastasios of Albania’s to the assembly of the Conference of European Churches.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aoiusa.org/blog/2009/07/heresy-vs-hope-dr-peter-bouteneff-on-two-texts-on-ecumenicism/" target="_blank">Take a look</a> also at the discussion on the podcast at the AOI Observer.</p>
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Via Fr Anthony Chadwick, I present &#8220;ΟΜΟΛΟΓΙΑ ΠΙΣΤΕΩΣ Κατά του Οικουμενισμού&#8221; (&#8220;A Confession of Faith Against Ecumenism&#8221; (original Greek text and unofficial English translation), signed by a number of metropolitans, bishops, clergy and monks of the Orthodox Church of Greece.
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<p>Via <a href="http://pagesperso-orange.fr/civitas.dei/reflections07.09.htm" target="_blank">Fr Anthony Chadwick</a>, I present &#8220;ΟΜΟΛΟΓΙΑ ΠΙΣΤΕΩΣ Κατά του Οικουμενισμού&#8221; (&#8220;A Confession of Faith Against Ecumenism&#8221; (<a href="http://www.impantokratoros.gr/343F71A2.el.aspx" target="_blank">original Greek text</a> and <a href="http://www.oodegr.com/english/oikoumenismos/omologia_pistews.htm" target="_blank">unofficial English translation</a>), signed by a number of metropolitans, bishops, clergy and monks of the Orthodox Church of Greece.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with Fr  Chadwick&#8217;s commentary on the text (<a href="http://pagesperso-orange.fr/civitas.dei/reflections07.09.htm" target="_blank">link</a>, see July 18) –</p>
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<p align="left">I see this whole thing in simple terms. The                        Christian world has been torn between relevance to the world                        and its specific <em>identity</em>. Ultimately, the whole                        thing goes back to the Donation of Constantine and “if the                        salt loses its savour”.</p>
<p>This is a problem that is intrinsic to Christianity.                        If a religion is to expand and assume a missionary vision,                        then it must be prepared to <em>compromise</em> its identity                        and <em>inculturate</em>. Western Catholicism is a missionary                        religion and addresses itself to the world. Eastern Orthodoxy,                        like Judaism, is a vast “monastery” and keeps its identity                        by keeping the infidel out and at arm’s length. The latter                        vision is coherent if it considers, like Jansenism and Calvinism,                        that the majority of humanity is nothing more than “<em>hell                        fodder</em>”. Islam is both &#8220;missionary&#8221; and medieval hard-line,                        and will continue to make inroads until it falls victim                        of its missionary ambitions and goes &#8211; - &#8211; secular.</p>
<p>&#8230; The Orthodox, like the Roman Catholic traditionalists                        (especially the sedevacantists) have come to this out of                        an instinct for survival. We traditional Anglicans also                        to an extent, because we can only survive by our <em>difference</em> from secular humanism. When you look at the historical pattern,                        we can begin to understand. All this is to say that I understand                        those Greeks who have had enough of relativism and liberalism.                        But, where is the love and charity or the will to share                        the Gospel with the world as Jesus asked of his Apostles?</p>
<p><em>Veritatem facientes <strong>in caritate</strong></em>.                        Not easy&#8230;. I would even say that we all seem to have got                        it wrong.</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[While it is not a popular position for an Orthodox Christian, much less a priest, when I reflect on the history of uniatism—of those communities who left the Orthodox Church and joined themselves to Catholic Church—I am struck less by the machinations of Rome and more the failing of Orthodox Christians. Much of what we [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=eirenikon.wordpress.com&blog=2547214&post=186&subd=eirenikon&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>While it is not a popular position for an Orthodox Christian, much less a priest, when I reflect on the history of uniatism—of those communities who left the Orthodox Church and joined themselves to Catholic Church—I am struck less by the machinations of Rome and more the failing of Orthodox Christians. Much of what we call uniatism is the fruit of our failure to be reconciled to each other, to support and encourage each other. How different would events then, and now, have unfolded if the actors had seen each other as the precious, irreplaceable gifts from God that each of us is to the other?</p>
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<p>What concerns me as well is that even among those Orthodox Christians who left and joined themselves to Rome the same divisions still exist among Eastern Catholics. Forgive me for speaking so plainly, but I cannot help wonder at times at the tribalism that seems so deeply rooted in Eastern Christianity. Whether we are Orthodox or Catholic, we seem to prefer to be with “our people” rather than “those people.” This preference for our own comes at the expense of the Gospel and is in stark contrast to the beauty and wisdom I have found in Eastern Christianity.</p></div>
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<p>The documents of the Second Vatican Council figured prominently in my own journey to the Orthodox Church. Not, as some might imagine, in a negative way, but in positive way. Reading the Council Fathers, looking at the reforms that they struggled to articulate and implement, was struck by the the prominence of the Christian East. To take but two examples, Vatican II’s emphasizes the conciliar nature of the Church on the universal level and the celebration of the Eucharist in the vernacular on the parochial level. I could add to this the renewed emphasis on the Liturgy of the Hours (or the daily cycle of services) and the universal call to holiness as the foundation of the life of the Church. Granted these elements were not always embodied with equal success, but the attempt was made and I saw in the attempt a turn to the East that lead me naturally to the Byzantine Catholic Church and ultimately to the Orthodox Church.</p></div>
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<p>The Church of Rome looked to renew herself by looking East to re-appropriate for her own life the importance of the local Church. I wonder if it isn’t necessary for the Orthodox Church to look West and re-appropriate for ourselves the importance of the universal Church? Part of this process would , I think, require from us a sober reflection on the failures of uniatism not simple in the pejorative sense of the term, but also at the failure of Orthodox Christians then (and also now) to be true to our own ecclesiological vision. It is this failure I would suggest that failure that made reasonable the departure of some of us to Rome.</p></div>
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<p>Let me be clear, I do not think that re-union with Rome is the answer. Yes, there must be reconciliation between the Catholic and Orthodox Churches and I hope for this in my lifetime.</p></div>
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<p>But while reconciliation with the Church of Rome is essential, there is another, internal reconciliation that must happen as well. If it doesn’t then I am afraid we will see deeper divisions not only within the Church but from the Church as well. Even during the relative calm of recent years some 60% of those who join the Orthodox Church as adults leave us. Add to this the young people who leave as adults and the number of adults whose participation in the life of the Church is nominal at best, and the need for renewal and reconciliation on all levels of the Church becomes painful obvious.</p></div>
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<p><strong><a href="http://palamas.info/?p=601" target="_blank">Fr Gregory Jensen</a></strong> (Orthodox Church in America)</div>
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