Comments on: New Marian Dogma?

By: Asimplesinner

Asimplesinner — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:05:01 +0000

I am guessing you don’t remember this story making the headlines a decade ago on either Newsweek or Time?

It is going no where quickly, and Father J is likely right.

The work and efforts of Rome in seeking reconcilation with churches and ecclesial community has been the priority for decades. To set it back with a new roadblock to negotiate away seems odd and most ill considered…

It must have been a rather slow newsday when that story went out.

By: aconservativeblogforpeace

aconservativeblogforpeace — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:52:17 +0000

I think you’ve got a consensus here.

Thanks, Fr J, for that detail – very important.

This is best left as opinion. Although it’s fun to scare Protestants and co-redemptrix is orthodox if you spin it the right way, its face-value meaning is heretical.

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By: eirenikon

eirenikon — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:39:27 +0000

Fr J, et al.

I’m glad that the movement doesn’t seem to be too vital at this point!

By: Robert Thomas Llizo

Robert Thomas Llizo — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:59:38 +0000

The purpose of dogma, andits formulation, as I understand it, is to refute heresy by procliaming the true heart and mind of the Church. As an Orthodox Christian who actually has absolutely NO PROBLEM with the doctrine of co-redemtrist, properly understood, I see no need for a new dogma, since I fail to see what heresy this is supposed to address. Dogma for its own sake? Unacceptable for the Orthodox Church.

I think Fr. J. puts this in good perspective: three elderly Cardinals hardly amounts to a popular movement within the Collegium.

By: Hieromonk Gregory

Hieromonk Gregory — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:02:40 +0000

Really, there is absutely no need or this proclamation since no Christological Dogma is being attacked. Best to keep thse matters in the realm of theolgumena, or the inner Tradition of the Church. It seeto me that the notion was proposed to JPII and he turned it down.

By: Fr. J.

Fr. J. — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:49:19 +0000

Let’s not get too excited here. This is a movement in its last gasp. Three elder Cardinals out of 187 is not news.